Passing away


Maisie 24 November 2025 – 29 December 2024

  • Funeral service Tuesday, 11 February, 2025, 1030GMT link East Hill Baptist Church [see below for instructions if you need them. No login in required, but you must identify yourself.]
  • Committal link Tuesday, 11 February, 2025, 1210GMT link: East Chapel East Chapel, Roehampton Crematorium , UserName: yami6838 Password: 415731
    Recordings of the services are available on these links.
  • Documents and tributes:
    The funeral service and committal – here
    Daughter-in-law – here
    Eldest granddaughter – here
    Eldest son – here
This is the recording of the funeral service at East Hill Baptist Church.

A pdf copy of the funeral service is available here.

This is the recording of the committal at Roehampton. East Chapel
Most of the pictures in the YouTube video below are of Maisie, or they belonged to her. If you happen to be in one of the pictures, it is an accident, you may have been in the wrong place at the right time.

The music from Siegfried and Götterdämmerung is my choice. It was not hers.

Who was Maisie? Follow this link for a brief family history.


Whilst this is not the place for personal blogging, some of you will want to know of, and a few of you will have met my mother I thought I should say something here. When Abraham was living in Mamre1 near the Dead Sea, three men visited him. He welcomed them and they honoured him by eating with him. Two of them walked on. One remained behind to speak with Abraham about the reasons for their visit. My mother attained ninety-nine years in November, and on Sunday past whilst we waited by her bed-side, two such men visited her. The District Nurse had not long left. We did not see them, nor hear their footsteps, but she left the house with them to be taken to her eternal home. Though we did not see them come or go, they left her body without breath, so that we would know they had been.

The One who remained to speak with Abraham later said: In my Father’s house are many rooms. I go to prepare a place for you, and if I go to prepare a place for you, I shall return to take you to myself.2

She was a good mother, grandmother, great-grandmother, aunt and great-aunt to many as well as a friend. We thank God for her many years, and for giving her grace to persevere in weakness, illness and pain in her last days.

1 Genesis 18
2 John 14


The funeral service took place at East Hill Baptist Church conducted by Joe Long, pastor and neighbour for many years, followed by a committal at Roehampton Vale.

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Donations, please, if in lieu of flowers, should be made to the Royal Trinity Hospice, who provided care at home for her in her last weeks, or to OxFam. We thank those who have already made donations.


The information below is now redundant and retained here only for recordGo to comments

Further information about the funeral arrangements were available from Ernest Larner, Funeral Directors. A QR code for use with your smart-phone is below.

To join the funeral service at East Hill Baptist Church, follow this link: Funeral service. Ignore the instructions on that page, unless you already have Zoom installed and are familiar with it. Instead do this:

  • Follow on that page the link Click Here (you may follow this link rather than the Funeral Service link above if you wish).
    • This opens the Zoom web page in your browser or on your smart phone etc
    • You are offered the opportunity to download the Zoom Workplace app to your device. You do not have to do this.
  • Follow the link Launch Meeting
    • If you have installed the Zoom Workplace app, the service will open in the app. If you have not move on to the next step.
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  • The host will admit you to the service.

We recommend that you join the service early, to allow time for anything that might go wrong; your device may decide that it needs an update and keep you waiting several minutes; you may have other connection issues; and to allow time for the host to admit you to the service.

Please note that this link presently connects you to the morning service at East Hill. The service starts at 1030 GMT each Sunday. You may want to connect to that before the funeral service if you wish to familiarise yourself with the set up. The link will be updated if necessary on the morning of the funeral service.

Instructions for joining the committal will be added when they become available.

https://www.dignityfunerals.co.uk/funeral-notices/29-12-2024-winifred-maisie-moffatt/

Ernest Larner Funeral Directors
Dignity Funerals

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Lipedema – the debate

There is a debate in the world of Lipedema which Coco now spells not as Lipoedema in order to avoid the suggestion that oedema (water based fluid) is present in the dsytrophy which is called lipedema1. Coco has referenced the debate in other articles – here and here. The video referenced below produced by Colin Mockery (is that a pen name like Coco?) is quite long but an excellent literature review for anyone who has either the smallest interest in lipedema or who is looking for an example of how to review literature and present the results of such a review. The reader must understand that in saying this Coco is not condoning the conclusions of this particular review. Coco is merely saying it is a good example of a review. For an assessment of the conclusions of the review the reader must look elsewhere, in particular any reply that may have been prepared by any of those who were subjects of the review.

Before Coco says any more he should declare that he is not unbiassed and if you have read any thing else you, the reader, will understand the bias. Coco also understands that none of the parties to the debate promoted either directly or indirectly, the review or the production of the video.

It is a fascinating story. Coco understands why some at the ILA or the Concensus would want to either suppress or advertise the video, but Coco would wish to be cautious about the way it is done. Whilst the review has at its foundation a good literature, in the broadest sense of that word, review, the tone in which the conclusions are presented, do not become a cautious, intelligent enquirer into truth, but rather more speaks of the polemical promoter of a particular cause. A suppression of the video would be seen as an attempt to silence free speech, whereas a promotion could so easily be perceived as a gloating over the ‘enemy’. We must not rejoice over the fall of others nor seek to find ways to make them fall, for we are as frail as they are, so concerning promotion of the video, Coco would want to add a statement something like (whilst the author himself makes much the same point close to the end of the video, you yourself must judge the manner in which it is made.):

‘whilst we agree with the scientific conclusions of this examination of the literature, at the same time recognising the limitations in our knowledge, we do not endorse any attacks upon any of the individual practitioners mentioned who, we believe, intend only the best for their patients even if it may appear that they may have been misinformed or may not have used or promoted the most appropriate treatments in their practices. Attacks upon individuals merely strain relationships and hinder our efforts to work towards a common evidence-based understanding of the underlying causes and best treatments available for this debilitating condition, which we call lipedema. We must remember that each one of us has taken a journey to reach where we are today, having ourselves also made mistakes and having been in need of correction by others.  Our understandings are limited, and any criticism we make must be made with both humility and compassion, and with the recognition that we may also be found wanting as understanding of the condition develops. ‘

Coco can see at least one cultural problem though for whilst Luther and his contemporaries would happily speak directly against persons for the ideas they hold and promote – indeed Luther himself was likened to a bull by the Pope of his day, and perhaps such personal attacks could be used effectively with the response ‘If I be a bull, let me show what kind of bull I can be’ – such an approach is not the best to use today in some societies. Could a modern German be asked to speak in such a way that if, whilst he is attacking the teaching of Mein Kampf, at the same time he would be defending the writer thereof? Surely that would be completely counter cultural. We must be careful that we do not impose our own cultural judgements on others in the particular forms of words they choose to express disagreement. If even native English speakers can be misunderstood when speaking across different English speaking cultures, those who are native English speakers must bear with the frailties of those who are translating into another foreign language and do not understand that the form of words chosen, which may be understood in Birmingham, Alabama, may not be understood in the same way in Birmingham, Warwickshire.

There were some other aspects than the attacks upon the individuals, with which Coco was not happy in the video for example, the use of the comic music behind some of the video clips of Dr Karen Herbst and Linda-Anne Kahn(?) were prejudicial, unhelpful and disturbing. Coco could see why it was thought appropriate, but it was unnecessary (unless the music was also behind the original videos of course). The words used were enough in themselves to get across the point that was being made. Secondly, the use of irony in the apparent pretence of a denial that there was a commercial motive behind their public statements despite the presentation of evidence that suggested quite clearly that there is a financial conflict of interest may not be what you want to find in a literature review, even though there are good examples of it in English literature itself; Shakespeare used the very technique in Mark Anthony’s speech after the murder of Caesar, perhaps with good cause for if he had not Mark Anthony may himself have become the object of a second murder. It may be a good literary or oratorical technique, but it behoves the scientist to avoid it.

Coco commends the video for your close attention. There is much to learn from it, not just about lipedema, but about what we do not know, and about how not to present your findings. Listening at 1.25 times normal speed will work, and reduce the viewing time, but there are sections in which the review is quoting from the literature during which you will need to slow the video down to normal speed in order to properly grasp the sense of the speakers being quoted.

1 Coco is not suggesting that oedema is absent in the presence of lipedema, it may be, and perhaps often is, present, but it is not intrinsic to the condition. The presence of oedema is a different condition which may be lymphoedema, the consequence of inflammation or some other oedemic condition.

2 Warning: As always do not take medical advice, or understanding, from Coco. Whilst Coco may be able to think scientifically, his hypotheses are often untested and perhaps some would say ill-founded.

This time of year

It cannot have escaped your attention that that ‘It is the most wonderful time of the year’ is a message that you will have heard many times in recent, and perhaps not so recent, days. If Coco have understood that message it involves families and more specifically the love that there is within families despite the hurt that we can and do inflict upon each other from time to time: as it is said – love bears all things.

So if it is love that makes this the most wonderful time of the year, then love is very important indeed would you argue with me if Coco suggested that it is the most important aspect of this time? If of this time, then surely not just at this time but at all times? It is a terrible thing when we come across someone who appears to have no love in him, except perhaps for himself, but when we meet someone who has real love which we recognise it by the generosity and compassion he shows towards others. Surely that rejoices our hearts.

Having seen and understood the importance of love – it is wonderful, it is what makes families what they are, it transforms (at least in popular culture) this time of the year, how do we understand love and God? That there is one God, one supreme being is indisputable, but there is a debate about whether such god can love. Coco shall not here go into any detail but it boils down to what a lone being is able to love. Love is expressed towards another. We believe however that God does not simply love, he is love. How was that love expressed then before anything else was made? This can only be understood in the light of the event which we celebrate at this time of the year.

No-one has seen God, but the Son, whose birth we celebrate, and whom the Father loves, has made him known. Before ever the worlds were made, the love of the one true God was known and expressed in the relationships between the persons, Father, Son and Spirit, of the Trinity, the one true God.

If it is love that makes this the most wonderful time of the year, it is love that makes our God the most wonderful God. This love is expressed towards us also in that the One whose coming we remember gave himself on Roman cross for our sins.

O come all you faithful, joyful and triumphant, to worship and adore him, very God of very God. O come let us adore him, Christ the Lord.